I own probably 5 pairs of over-ear headphones for varying purposes (and having a bad itch for buying audio listening gear). These ones are my favorite, for a cheaper option the Sony 1000XM3's are still a great model and since theyre like 3 gens old in the ever-churning technology deathmaw we live in you can find em for 160$ regularly. Avoid the Apple Max at all cost they're so shite and so overpriced. If you're looking for wired headphones basically every musician or dj I know owns a pair of audio technica ATH-M50x's and I've had my pair for 9 years now and they're still going strong.